waterfalls

this is a song about identity, jealousness, and the seasons. enjoy.

music video: waterfalls

it's nice to be free.

like paper airplanes in the wind.

the stars shine in the sky. it's beautiful.

love
–clover caruso


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how many hours of work went in to each aspect for creating waterfalls?

it’s really hard to say because i did not do exact time tracking on the project, i said on discord:

didnt track time for mv but it was produced alongside a full time software engineering career. from september ish to mid december, nearly all the time i had available outside work was spent on it, excluding time around friends. i did have a few weekends where i didnt leave my apartment at all (not even for grocieries or meals) and just grinded on the project. i had a lot of times where i felt like i couldnt work at all.

writing and producing the audio was on and off work from april 2023 to november 2024. not consistently. i spent most of 2024 practing singing not really getting where i want to be but better than before

during 2024 i was working on other songs, and i filmed many recording sessions. usually an hour long, most of these ended in me giving up. it’s quite sad looking back at me being so lost

paperclover.net/…/2024-09-20_recording_session.mp…


i might have a hypothesis about what you mean by ‘rightness’…but can you give me a short audio of one of your takes that sounds right to you (and one that does not)?

i, unfortunately, do not have any samples of a “right” sound. but you can look for “wrong” sounds by looking through my entire discography, which i am working on reuploading as we speak.

actually, i have two: the song at the end of iphone 15 review and the second chorus of waterfalls.


C# B# C# B# C# A, B C# C# B B A, G#, F#?

this looks close to the waterfalls melody but it’s out of key. but no i’m no longer jealous of the seasons because i am now flying high above the sky.


The internet just seems to feel darker and darker and darker to me. I’m glad you’re keeping your circle smaller and safer right now. I’m always thinking I should use the microphone of the internet to share the light, but I can’t really do much and I also don’t think I’m strong enough not to let the darkness kill what little light I ever have to offer anyway. I mostly left the internet for a couple years and it went well— and now this year I have tried being back on it for a few months, but I can already feel my Fire burning out.

you gotta do it for yourself. i was talking to someone yesterday about this. the internet is so huge that it’s like… waah. and it’s all so spikey. you gotta, and it’s hard, but you gotta build it up from nothing into what you want. it’s best to work off-grid, and then bring what you have to the internet when you’re ready. if you start anywhere else, the fire is destined to burn out since it’s not rooted in your own desire. when it is, it’s easier to keep going.

the worst part is this approach is super lonely, so i make myself sane by having very meaningful friendships offline. the specific thing i like most there is the irl music video showings. i did one in november for waterfalls, and might get to do one next week or so for in the summer. that is, if the project is actually finished by then.

also, take small steps. and a billion of those steps. it’s very easy to look at people and get jealous of whatever. i know that feeling too well, but it’s interesting slowly moving into the place where people do it to me.


regarding your future songs, what do you want to keep the same (from in the summer/waterfalls) and what do you want to change?

billion things but here is one of each

same: playing with all the instruments available, placing real world characters in 3d worlds

different: i want more varied structure regarding lyrics, having certain video scenes be ultra ultra minimal.


Anyway, how’s the album going?

album 1 is “done”, sort of cancelled while the tracks get scrapped for parts on singles like waterfalls and in the summer. “when everything froze” got produced but just thrown into the archives.

i still want to finish an album for real. and i’ve been taking a different approach to it than before. to be blunt, i’m just trying to finish some projects for real. there is a loose theme between everything (intimacy), and i’m about 2 and a half songs in, with a dozen more that i’d like to produce. the final album would be some set of these that i’m happy with. i’ll put more time onto music once some other tasks lighten up.


have you made any changes to your music production department, like getting new sounds/instruments, making scripts to automate stuff etc.

yes. tho i recognize the way you’re asking this because it’s something me 5 years ago would’ve asked myself now, and no the core of the system is the same.

over the years, i changed softwares from beepbox to fruityloops to bitwig (2022-2023) to logic (waterfalls) to reaper (in the summer, new home, and all the other ongoing demos). the sound hasn’t really changed at all, maybe from beepbox since that is mostly chiptune tools. i’ve gotten better at utilizing the number of tracks, getting more satisfying layerings of instruments as well as satisfying switches of instruments.

i havent written too many scripts – the only big one being “the down button” which i’ll get to in a second – because i still havent really figured out what even is the workflow i am trying to automate?? like i tried to drive the car without building it first. so been hoping that this album project gets me farther along that route. the thing i’ve gotten very satisfied with is my vocal recording process. while i got better at singing by a lot, the big revelation was to use two tracks for vocals. one “staging” track and then a “commit” track. reaper has nice comping features, but i’ve had a lot of problems when i record a song out of order (say i record section 3 then 2); the new recording if i don’t press stop quickly enough will become the active take for the start of section 3 then the comp becomes a mess. the trick: once i decide to “lock in” a comp. i move it from the staging track down onto the commit track. only ever record to staging, no overlaps. it was such a good and productive idea that i have a specific “down button” which performs take-crop-to-active-take-in-items and then item-edit-move-items-envelope-points-down-one-track-a-bit to collapse the comp clip into the single chosen take, and then moves the selected clip down one track. a beautiful script.

the one other trick i have is i have three buttons for controlling an active recording: one to save and restart the take, one to restart the take without saving, and then a stop button. i settled on this after a lot of testing during recording sessions, and mostly being annoyed at the reaper dialog for this. no other set of automatic code for music has really improved productivity yet, just these two. because they’re simple and driven out of the workflow, built in real time. though i think i plan to add a bunch of “quick presets”, though that also involves deciding what those presets are. i think i’m tired of searching the FX menu for some built in reaper fx, as well as the common set of plugins i use. i want quick buttons for all of these soon, but it might be smarter to actually save specific instrument/fx patches instead of the plugins themselves. kind of like bill wurtz’s 100 instrument system or whatever that was about. like i just pick out “the one grand piano sound” and assign a name to all the sounds i care about. probably good thing to do after my next AV project.

a big change i am trying out now is using microsoft onenote version 2007 as the main writing tool. it has some insane tech for the time, as well as a lot of useful note taking features. but this is sort of “pre-production” than “production”.

also how would you rate your mixing skills

slowly figuring stuff out. the game as i understand it is you gotta do as little as possible and spend as little time as possible. the simpler the project the simpler the mix. when mixing now, i tend to favor big broad changes that actually make a difference. then after enough play throughs, it’s good. i mostly use ReaEq and some other stock plugins for making adjustments